IN PRACTICE

[Iain]

Spelling reform can never happen on a whim.

But it can be fully phoneticised easier with less actual change, and
here is just how to do it with hardly any change:


1) The goalposts could be moved by increased awareness of O.P., via
Shakespear filmmakers, pirate flicks, etc. This could then be used
psychologically as a platonic mediator between all the pronunciations.

After all, O.P. is, to the modern ear, just another British Isles
accent.

2) Move the goal posts more: Identification of words such as "police"
as "loan words", or acknowledging the Scots pronunciation as Standard.

2.5) Use apostrophes more.
So,
Practic'l \ Practicality, etc.
Med'cin', etc.
In everywhere except Scotland -- G'rl, C'rl, W'rld, etc.

3) Dropping all V Es, and refraining from doubling accordingly.

4) Double more phonetically -- Americans should write "Anginna", and
British write "Angina".

6) A "vowel length exceptor" mark over vowels in "national", etc.

7) Preserve the non-rhyming status of "girl" and "curl", for they don't
rhyme in Scotland, at least.

8) Respell girl, etc, as "ghirl", else it could be "jirl".

9) "Minde", "Poste" etc.

10) Correct a few very silly things like "thought"...

Et Robert est thine uncle.

~Iain

[Iain]

Post by Iain
Spelling reform can never happen on a whim.
But it can be fully phoneticised easier with less actual change, and
1) The goalposts could be moved by increased awareness of O.P., via
Shakespear filmmakers, pirate flicks, etc. This could then be used
psychologically as a platonic mediator between all the pronunciations.
After all, O.P. is, to the modern ear, just another British Isles
accent.
2) Move the goal posts more: Identification of words such as "police"
as "loan words", or acknowledging the Scots pronunciation as Standard.
2.5) Use apostrophes more.
So,
Practic'l \ Practicality, etc.
Med'cin', etc.
In everywhere except Scotland -- G'rl, C'rl, W'rld, etc.
3) Dropping all V Es, and refraining from doubling accordingly.
4) Double more phonetically -- Americans should write "Anginna", and
British write "Angina".
6) A "vowel length exceptor" mark over vowels in "national", etc.
7) Preserve the non-rhyming status of "girl" and "curl", for they don't
rhyme in Scotland, at least.
8) Respell girl, etc, as "ghirl", else it could be "jirl".
9) "Minde", "Poste" etc.
10) Correct a few very silly things like "thought"...
Et Robert est thine uncle.

Also,

Replace all "Wind-ow" sounds with "Windo".

All "Fl-ow-er"- type sounds stay "fl-ow-er".

Maintain all "Wh-" spellings like "white" -- they _are_ sounded
someplace.

All "ou"s that are supposed to be plain Latin-ish "U" -- just write
"eu", for it looks nicer.

~Iain

[t***@lycos.com]

Post by Iain
Spelling reform can never happen on a whim.
But it can be fully phoneticised easier with less actual change, and
1) The goalposts could be moved by increased awareness of O.P., via
Shakespear filmmakers, pirate flicks, etc. This could then be used
psychologically as a platonic mediator between all the pronunciations.
After all, O.P. is, to the modern ear, just another British Isles
accent.

what is "o.p."? (sorry if it's a common abbreviation among linguists.
i'm just a layperson.)

Post by Iain
2) Move the goal posts more: Identification of words such as "police"
as "loan words", or acknowledging the Scots pronunciation as Standard.
2.5) Use apostrophes more.
So,
Practic'l \ Practicality, etc.
Med'cin', etc.
In everywhere except Scotland -- G'rl, C'rl, W'rld, etc.
3) Dropping all V Es, and refraining from doubling accordingly.

sorry again, but what are "V Es"?

Post by Iain
4) Double more phonetically -- Americans should write "Anginna",

i'm an american, and would pronounce it anjIEna (or anjie'na, using the
apostrophe as an accent mark).

Post by Iain
and
British write "Angina".
6) A "vowel length exceptor" mark over vowels in "national", etc.

i think we should avoid adding any new marks or characters unless it is
determined to be unavoidable. just my opinion. i think this one is
avoidable. just spell it "nashunal".

Post by Iain
7) Preserve the non-rhyming status of "girl" and "curl", for they don't
rhyme in Scotland, at least.

i can see trying to preserve differences where possible between british
and american spellings, but to attempt to accomodate every dialect is
not practical in my opinion. one of the great cases for any reform
would be to simplify spellings and spelling rules for the vast majority
of english speakers around the world. the american heritage dictionary
(dictionary.com) represents the "ir" and "ur" in the above words both
as "u^r". is there a widely-accepted british dictionary that we might
use as a guide for common british pronunciations?

Post by Iain
8) Respell girl, etc, as "ghirl", else it could be "jirl".

how about representing all soft g's as "j"?

Post by Iain
9) "Minde", "Poste" etc.

not too awful.

Post by Iain
10) Correct a few very silly things like "thought"...

thot?

Post by Iain
Et Robert est thine uncle.
~Iain

[Iain]

Post by t***@lycos.com

Post by Iain
Spelling reform can never happen on a whim.
But it can be fully phoneticised easier with less actual change, and
1) The goalposts could be moved by increased awareness of O.P., via
Shakespear filmmakers, pirate flicks, etc. This could then be used
psychologically as a platonic mediator between all the pronunciations.
After all, O.P. is, to the modern ear, just another British Isles
accent.

what is "o.p."? (sorry if it's a common abbreviation among linguists.
i'm just a layperson.)

O.P. is the pronunciation that accounts for the bulk of modern
spelling(less true the more obscure the word), and is in this sound
sample here(Note the vowels in Love\Remove -- Tail(dipthong),
Make\Rage\Parent, etc):

http://www.shakespeareswords.com/audio/R_J%20Prologue.mp3

I write a short referencial note long ago on why written English is
mostly nice how it is but cannot find the URL. Ah well.

~Iain

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Post by Iain
Spelling reform can never happen on a whim.
But it can be fully phoneticised easier with less actual change, and
1) The goalposts could be moved by increased awareness of O.P., via
Shakespear filmmakers, pirate flicks, etc. This could then be used
psychologically as a platonic mediator between all the pronunciations.
After all, O.P. is, to the modern ear, just another British Isles
accent.
2) Move the goal posts more: Identification of words such as "police"
as "loan words", or acknowledging the Scots pronunciation as Standard.
2.5) Use apostrophes more.
So,
Practic'l \ Practicality, etc.
Med'cin', etc.
In everywhere except Scotland -- G'rl, C'rl, W'rld, etc.
3) Dropping all V Es, and refraining from doubling accordingly.
4) Double more phonetically -- Americans should write "Anginna", and
British write "Angina".
6) A "vowel length exceptor" mark over vowels in "national", etc.
7) Preserve the non-rhyming status of "girl" and "curl", for they don't
rhyme in Scotland, at least.
8) Respell girl, etc, as "ghirl", else it could be "jirl".
9) "Minde", "Poste" etc.
10) Correct a few very silly things like "thought"...
Et Robert est thine uncle.
~Iain